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Carol Haas's avatar

At this time in the US cattle production has dropped to the lowest in 70 years, and poultry are being severely culled due to management practices and bird flu. Crop yields for grains, fruits and vegetables are all down. Geopolitics, environment, economy and other issues are at play.

Interestingly, there is currently a global oversupply of both wine and cooking oil.

The voice John hears coming from the midst of the four living creatures seems to be related to what appears a logical progression of judgments depicted by the four horsemen. Does the black horse depict actual shortages, or a world system and global marketplace that allows the few to enslave the many through means of tyranny and unjust distribution? Either way, it represents poverty and want to the common folk.

Are we to spiritualize the oil and wine, but leave the rest of the passage to its plain meaning? In Chapter 16:15 where Jesus actually interjects an encouragement, the words are clearly his own. But in this case of the black horse, the voice seems almost a parenthetical clarification of the context.

Brandon Freywald's avatar

So would you say that the “ oil and wine” would refer to the elect of G-d? He will preserve His remnant!

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